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Offsprings or *Nosprings*?

April 12th 2008 01:00
lego baby pram baby-carriage


Offsprings…to have or not to have...

Having been married for more than five years now, and recently moved to a nice spacious home…most people assume that my friend Antsy and her husband Tim will now (or should be) be planning for children. In fact, her in-laws assumed that they have been trying!


In a recent conversation with his parents, Tim almost gave them a heart-attack…

Father: (Following on a conversation that his cousin and his wife had just been successful with IVF) – If you and Antsy still don’t have a child by next year – you should go see a specialist.

X: Well…we’ve not been/are not trying.

Mother: OH…(with downfallen face). Shouldn’t wait too long…

On many separate occasions, Antsy has also been interrogated by her sister-in-law (and a few other family members) on why they (Antsy and Tim) haven’t yet have children – which typically leaves Antsy frustrated and somewhat annoyed that the decision to have/not to have children is a discussion outside her marital life.

crying unhappy baby baby-blues



While many see it as the natural progression of life, children aren’t for everyone…and there are many interesting and differing views on ‘Why have children’.

Social pressure can also be a subtle yet strong influence on women in their choice to go ahead and have a child. If you are married, for example, there is often unspoken expectation on the part of family and friends that sooner or later you will have children. Not to do so is often regarded as selfish. It is interesting to note in this regard that there is no adequate word in the English language to describe a woman who positively chooses not to have a child. The words we use are ‘childless’, ‘single’, ‘spinster’ — all of which imply some kind of lack
– full article here.

From an academic and scientific standpoint, having too many children means creating more carbon footprints than Earth (and its resources) can sustain – here. Which in some ways can be a chicken and egg situation – no/less children could result in an ageing/dying population resulting in no/less resources, anyway…?

Anyhow, some of us have a need to sustain the family lineage, and for others it’s the almost altruistic thought of leaving a piece of love (or resource) behind. Here's another perspective to this deliberation

loving couple embrace plasticine play-doh


So, why do most people assume that everyone wants children or should have children or that life is supposedly less fulfilling without children? Not having children shouldn’t be viewed as a less than fulfilled life, or vice versa...should it?


Images courtesy of d_jeltovski (toy) and nasirkhan (crying baby), MorgueFile.


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Comment by katyzzz

April 12th 2008 02:22
Because it's Nature's plan, the most important characteristic of any species is the ability to reproduce itself, Darwinism and scientific evidence, so I suggest those who don't want children as opposed to those who can't have them be "put down" as useless, tell that to your self centred friends, they have been given the gift of life and it is now their turn to pass it on.

Besides the very best of designer prams require the presence of a baby. QED.

Comment by Michaelie

April 12th 2008 08:51
Hello beautiful Lara!

I absolutely agree with you!

Not having children shouldn’t be viewed as a less than fulfilled life, or vice versa...

It's a choice either way, (though I think there is more social pressure to have kids than not to have kids, maybe in certain circles), one we have the right to make for ourselves. Reinforcing the expectation of procreation, or any other gender norm is ridiculous. I hate that women (and men, to some degree) STILL have to contend with the unwarranted and archaic notion that we must do everything we can to bear children (and how far do you take this? that we must therefore all be in heterosexual relationships? That everyone should pair up? That everyone should marry? That women should stay home to 'nurture' the children, since they are the ones who must give birth in the first place? Grrr) and that if we choose not to have children, we are selfish, unfeminine, unholy abominations of our gender..!!!!

Ok, composing myself.

And why all the pressure? What business is it of anyone's? I would be having a very firm talk to my parents/parents in law if they were projecting any such expectations onto me, even if it was in fact my desire to start a family!

I actually would like to have children, but for my own reasons, in my own time, and on my own bloody terms!!!

So, um, yeah, that's what I reckon.

Great post.

Mich

Comment by tlcorbin

April 12th 2008 12:06
If you don't want them, don't have them and let the biological imperatives be damned Lara.

So, just what purpose is the sex drive serving other than to act as a slave to procreation, when there doesn't seem to be a biological imperative for recreation or companionship.

Raven

Comment by Tracy

April 13th 2008 01:16
Good question, Lara. I think that we can’t expect to have a one-answer approach for all humans. There could be a multitude of reasons why a couple has babies and a multitude why they choose not to. Who are we to judge?

And no-one should have to justify their reason/s.

Tracy

Comment by Lara M

April 13th 2008 08:26
Good point, katyzzz but in this day and age the decision to have children is not as simple and simplistic as it was (back) then. A changing landscape (financials, getting married later, etc) means a changing view/approach towards a number of matters -- including having or not having children.

<LOL> Yes...those designer prams require equally (??) as fashionable parents/bub to go along with it... So, who/which is the accessory?



I knew you won't disappoint me with a less than witty comment, Mich I agree with a lot of what u said. I've seen a few friends pressured into *conforming* to what society/family expect of them -- having children! They only had their children 'cos the biological clock was ticking (and they felt the need to be like (almost) any other married couple), so the deed was done -- sure, they have a nice little nuclear family now...but let's just say the kids spend more time with the nanny than with them...

Sure, understand that career and work responsibilities come into play -- hence the nanny...but whenever possible, they're with the nanny.

I actually would like to have children, but for my own reasons, in my own time, and on my own bloody terms!!!
...yep!



That's true, Raven. However, when I see my friends (and their friends) being pressured into 'it' that's when I question the 'Why' of it.

So, just what purpose is the sex drive serving other than to act as a slave to procreation, when there doesn't seem to be a biological imperative for recreation or companionship.
...interesting point for another post



Well put, Tracy. I agree that there are a multitude of reasons for and not having children -- ranging from financial situations, meeting someone/marrying later in life, etc.

Who are we to judge?
And no-one should have to justify their reason/s.
...absolutely...



Thanks for all your viewpoints...

Comment by Krystal

April 13th 2008 10:17
The drive to reproduce is innate, it is the principle reason we are here, scientific evidence, so I guess those who don't want to are genetic misfits.

I'll take the pram thanks, I just can't wait.

Comment by Tracy

April 13th 2008 10:25
Gosh Krystal, that's strong saying that people are ''genetic misfits'' for not having children.

Comment by What's Your Story?

April 16th 2008 09:21
OMG! I can so relate to this. I've been married for almost 5 years and still don't have kids. Why? A mixture of choice and chance.

I was under so much pressure to have a baby during the early years of marriage. Ugh. Thank goodness I didn't give in to those pressures! I don't want to have a baby just to shut the traps of relatives!

I would love to have children someday. Now doesn't seem to be the right time just yet.

Comment by Always Eighteen

April 18th 2008 12:31
With Australia's aging population, I guess people should be encouraged to have kids...

However, with all the orphans in the world...



Anyhow, I personally, at this moment of time, don't ever plan on having kids. If anything, I'd adopt.



Comment by Lara M

April 22nd 2008 04:09
That's a pretty harsh statement, Krystal. Everyone has their right -- and rightfully their own reasons -- whether to have kids or not. Can we even accurately say that people who have kids have it for the *right* reasons?

Looking at it (your statement) another way, it could be said that perhaps they're genetically modifying themselves to cope with the changing environment...



Having children for yourself in the *right* space is quite the right decision. Thanks for sharing, Toni...



Sure, I agree Dean -- that they should be encouraged but I don't quite agree with 'having children for just the sake of it...'.

Uh-huh...what about the many orphans out there...



Tracy, Michaelie...thanks for following this post.
In-line with the love on this blog, I've had to edit as necessary...


Comment by Michaelie

April 22nd 2008 06:59
HAHA

Oh sorry Lara, was too annoyed to be articulate! Though I do think 'Krystal's' comment is really less loving than mine was, when it comes down to it!


Comment by Tracy

April 23rd 2008 22:21
There are many reasons why a couple may choose not to have a baby, it's often complicated and painful to make...

I stand by my comment, no one should have to justify their decision to anyone...and that does not make them a genetic misfit..

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