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Is it ever too BIG?

November 1st 2007 01:54
diamond engagement ring

It all began years ago when gold rings were traded as currency, and later evolved into a piece of jewellery and the all important symbol of a man’s love, affection and intention. These days before you out the cash for that piece of *bling*, you’re expected to know or rather be aware of the four Cs – color, clarity, cut, and carat weight.


Some engagement rings are made-to-order, most are bought off-the-shelf, and others are family heirlooms. Whatever it is, that engagement ring is always worn with pride and joy. I know many girls who proudly display their engagement ring…a contented smile upon their faces as they catch the glittering effects of it. Most often than not, they proudly and (almost mechanically) reel-off the facts figures (of the four Cs) on their ring.

Errrr…wait a minute, are the four Cs that important? What happened to the engagement ring as a symbol of his love and intention? Are the four Cs more important than his love?

Oh…wait, or does the four Cs of that engagement ring illustrate how much he loves you? The bigger it is, the more he loves you? I read numerous articles that advised that the engagement ring should be equivalent to two to three months’ salary(!!). I can’t fathom why that should be illustrative of love… Am I cynical, or should I perhaps embrace that social norm?

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How important is that piece of *bling*? What is the importance behind that engagement ring?


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An acquaintance recently got engaged. She proudly told us about the beautiful engagement ring (which easily met the four Cs) that was beautifully hand-crafted by a well-known jeweller. *Patiently* we waited for her to show it to us… Unfortunately she wasn’t wearing it, and we probably won’t (ever) get to see it…she told us it was safely tucked away in the safe!



Images courtesy of chelle (first image) and Gracey Stinson (second image), morgueFile.com

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Comment by Michaelie

November 1st 2007 02:11
I think $7000 or whatever is too much to spend. Crazy. For myself - I don't want diamonds... I'm an emerald girl.

Michaelie

Comment by katyzzz

November 1st 2007 02:51
No never, diamonds are a girl's best friend. I like emeralds, too.

Comment by Lara M

November 1st 2007 03:35
I think so too, Michaelie! I'd rather spend that $ on a great travel/honeymoon.



I'm not a jewellery person but I agree that that glitter is nice, katyzzz

Comment by Louie

November 1st 2007 03:44
bling bling.....i def think you can go too far...but love tasteful bling...

Comment by Mr Nice Guy

November 1st 2007 07:04
Folks

Damned if I do on this one - damned if I don't.

Thankfully Mrs NG isn't a big jewellery type girl.

That said - I was informed just prior to celebrating 1 year of wedded bliss that your 12 month anniversary (or first child) was the time to purchase an eternity ring.

. . . was I duped?

MNG

Comment by Lara M

November 1st 2007 07:24
I too think 'bling' can be tasteful, Louie. ...but cringe when it's too MUCH/BIG. ...but it is an individual taste, i guess...




Lucky u, MNG Re...the follow-on purchases, I know of someone who has her diamond ring exchanged for a larger carat each time she has a child...! Right now, her finger is a showcase for a whopping...3 carat! Now...that's scary...

Comment by Krystal

November 1st 2007 08:40
Well, so they tell me, you are naughty.

Comment by Aimzster

November 1st 2007 10:16
I think there are too many girls out there who place too much importance on the engagement ring that they would readily say yes even though they don't really love the guy just so they can show off that ring. I also hate it when the girl demands a specific size or specific amount from her bf (I knew this girl who told the guy "I'm not getting engaged unless the ring is $10k"). Give me a break! It should never be the carat size, the clarity or the price that matter - it's the person who gave it to you. People like this need to get their priorities straight, if you ask me (sorry to sound bitchy but I came from a bragging session about this subject).

Oh and a note to those girls who think bigger is better : if the quality is crap, it just makes your ring and your taste (not to mention your fiance) gaudy.

Comment by Patricia

November 1st 2007 13:42
i didn't get the engagement ring until later - much later - I got four kids instead - jewels beyond price, all of them. I have now have four rings - wedding, engagement, anniversary, anniversary - all with tiny but exquisite diamonds and rubies - I've no idea about the cs of any of them but I love them - not as much, though, as that man and those kids.

Comment by D. Armenta

November 1st 2007 14:48
Yes, don't you love how the advertising copy for jewelers sets the merchants up to be the final authority on what is correct? Eternity rings, 2-3 months' salary spent on a ring, the 4 Cs...all snobbery-based ad copy to intimidate people and promote sales.

I had a friend in Hong Kong who was a lapidary and custom jeweler; we had many a private giggle over the tacky "knuckle duster" rings the recently rich tourists would order. High quality gemstones, to be sure, but HUGE. No matter how good the stones are, they all look like costume jewelry when they're that big!

Comment by What's Your Story?

November 1st 2007 18:18
I could NEVER understand why the "oldies" advise that an engagement ring should be worth 2-3 months of salary. It doesn't sound practical at all to me. I'd rather that the money is invested in a nice home!

Comment by Tracy

November 1st 2007 20:48
Hi Lara

Yes it can definitely be too big. The amount a ring costs is not proportional to how much the guy loves you.

A friend of mine has a ring that's worth $10,000. I can't fathom it for a few reasons. One, that is too much money. Two, I might lose the thing (although it would be insured, but still) and three, imagine the holiday you could have with the money....four, I think it is really big and impractical...five, the size would get on my nerves...

Byeee

Comment by Cibbuano

November 1st 2007 21:53
Predictably, I've never been one for the whole engagement ring thing, and after reading a little bit about it (it's not an ancient tradition, but, rather, a cleverly timed marketing campaign), I'm definitely against the idea.


The trouble with engagement rings - Slate Magazine



Comment by Lilla

November 2nd 2007 00:52
Lara,

My engagement present was a beautiful black electric guitar and amp.

Long after I was married, I had an engagement ring fashioned out of a couple old pairs of earings I bought whilst living in India. A modest diamond was added and later.... lost, just as easily.

I never replaced that diamond with another, instead I opted for a zirconia... great shiny bling for about one-millionth the cost ... I don't think my husband loves me less becuase it is not a diamond either *lol*

I do think people carry it too far, especially young men who go into debt to buy big bling to impress their girl (or her parents/friends). What a pressure to take to any new marriage, because she is buying into theat debt too...?

An interesting question and post.

Lilla ...

Comment by KylieW

November 2nd 2007 03:27
I don't understand people who spend a fortune on a ring. That money could be better spent elsewhere.....but also, I'd just be terrified of losing the damn thing!!!!

If you love the ring and the man, then the size shouldn't matter.

As for me, I'm not really a diamond kinda girl. I'd probably have some kind of ring, but I'd rather something a bit unusual and funky rather than 'blingy'. And I definitely wouldn't be spending 3 months salary. I'd rather he spend that money on a holiday for us somewhere thanks!


Comment by Cibbuano

November 2nd 2007 03:28
Lilla - that sounds fantastic... a guitar and amp, then a ring fashioned out of something with memories attached...

Comment by Lilla

November 2nd 2007 08:59
Yeah, thanks Cib, it just seemed like the way to go...

I agree with D.Arm, that so many youngsters are intimidated by over the top advertising aimed at what is 'right' and what is 'wrong' ... my advice would always be to make your own 'music' and go with what feels right to you both.

If you can't decide on this basic essential?

Well perhaps it's not such a good match anyway, right?

Comment by Ashley

November 2nd 2007 21:27
hahaha this is gonna sound ridiculous but what are the 4 cs???

Also - I've heard the 2 month's salary thing before and the first time I almost had a heart attack. As to the question in your title - yes I think sometimes rings are too big. Mine will be small so I can't knock myself or other people out with it!

Comment by Australian Fashionista

November 3rd 2007 00:16
Thanks Cibb for the article reference. That was really interesting and a very Sad Realisation that I AM A SLAVE OF THE CORPORATE MARKETING world

My eyes popped when I saw a friend's wedding and engagement rings recently. They are everything they are 'supposed to be'. The 4 C's, The ridiculous price tag...
Recently my boyfriend wanted to buy me an engagement ring but instead I talked him down to a large silver & zirconia love ring valued at $30! The ring I bought him cost more.
Yet as I look at my beautiful silver rock studded glory, I worry that my heart doesn't race like it did when I saw my friend's ring. If it was real would it make a difference?
The other thought that DOES make a difference is how I would feel if I had to spend 2-3 months salary on my boyfriend - not so much fun then ladies!
I certainly won't be wearing something on my person valued at the average retail of my car!

AF, Confused.

Comment by James Rickard

November 4th 2007 03:16
I gonna say what nobody had the nerve to say--Ah man, it's about diamonds!

Comment by Ash

November 4th 2007 03:52
Hi Lara

Well I`m not really that fussed about marriage personally. I don`t think a piece of jewellry or a piece of paper should tell two people that they love one another.

A friend of mine just got engaged. Her fiancee paid about $7 000 for a very ordinary looking ring (in my opinion). Along with his other debts he is probably now about $15 000 in debt. She refuses to marry him until he has paid his debts off because she believes that a marriage should start debt free.

Now considering that she is responsible for roughly half that debt.....

Yeah! I just don`t get it. Put a deposit down on a house or something man, don`t spend ridiculous amounts of money on something like a ring... a symbol of your love? Someone could go out into the bush and bring me a rock as a symbol of their love and it would mean more than a $7 000 ring that I`d be too scared to wear for fear of losing it.

Each to their own though.

Ash

Comment by Lara M

November 4th 2007 08:12
Oh C/Krystal...a bit of naughtiness is fun, no...




Aimzster, I couldn't agree with you more...money sure can't but style and taste!




That's a beautiful story, Patricia. That man and those kids are priceless, eh... Thanks for sharing!




...all snobbery-based ad copy to intimidate people and promote sales.
...how true, D! It's really all about the retailer at the end of the day...and keeping up with the Jones'...





I think so too 'What's Your Story?' That...or a great holiday to be enjoyed together.




<LOL> Ditto, Tracy! How about that friend of mine who's too scared to wear it out! What's the point I ask?!

Comment by Lara M

November 4th 2007 08:35
Thanks for that link, Cibb! Interesting to know it's not cynicism but pragmaticism...




What a beautiful engagement present, Lilla. ...and *made* from the heart too, love it... I too think too many get into debt from the engagement get-go!

...my advice would always be to make your own 'music' and go with what feels right to you both.
...wonderful advice too, Lilla.




Great idea, Kylie. ...nothing like shared experiences and memories to *enhance* the relationship (than a piece of *bling*)...




Four Cs are in para 1, Ashley. Though not in detail...I couldn't be bothered!
Mine will be small so I can't knock myself or other people out with it!
...as long as you both love it, I think that's all that matters.




I think u did the right thing with the ring that you've got, Australian Fashionista. It's the thought that counts, and the love that matters. Do we really have to succumb to social norms and retail marketing? I doubt very much so...especially since it's not them who are paying the bills...




Only for some, James. ...and it's been interesting to hear that there are so many more practical people out there...though I know just as many marketers' dream!




That's a good point, Ash. Why should a piece of jewellery or piece of paper be representative of love. More so...when one has to be in debt to buy that *bling*! I hope your friend sorts out the debt before the wedding...now that's probably another debt in the making...from what I can *see*!

Comment by Kendra

November 4th 2007 16:40
If you're willing to do into debt over a piece of jewelry you obviously don't have your priorities set. I think it's ludicrous to spend anything over three months rent. Have fun crawling out of the hole you're in because of that "bling."

Comment by Lara M

November 5th 2007 10:31
Too true, Kendra! ...but most are still *blinded* by the bling...!

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